Wednesday, December 17, 2008

Headcovering thought

So while I am convicted about my wife covering her head while in worship and prayer based on 1 Corinthians 11: 2-15 I am still kind of torn on two ancillary questions.

  1. Should my wife cover her head all the time, or just when she is praying?
  2. Should my under-18 daughters cover their heads?

The passage speaks specifically of the headcovering on wives in prayer, so does it apply to girls who are not of marrying age or wives who are not at prayer or in corporate worship?

What say you?

9 comments:

Bethany W. said...

Arthur,
These are great questions!

I cover for prayer and sometimes throughout the whole day. It usually happens that I leave it on after morning devotions with the children. And, honestly, I think it helps my attitude stay more prayerful/Christ-centered while I am teaching their lessons. I see myself covering "full-time" in the future, but I am not there yet. You have to ask, how literally do I take the verse about "praying without ceasing?" And, would this also mean that you as a man would never wear a hat? It would be the logical conclusion, I suppose... though, the Plain women always cover and their men only take off their hats for worship/prayer.

As for your daughters - why not start a good habit while they are young? My girls are in subjection to their father, who is their head... so why not cover them as well?

My two cents,
Bethany

Unknown said...

Explain where you are getting the "wives" part :o) .
Paula

Unknown said...

I should elaborate further.
I did not get married until I was 31. Heaven forbid that I would have had to wait until I was married to cover my head!
Also, in Biblical times, a female was considered a woman at quite an early age. 13ish I believe....

If you go into our blog and click on the topic Headcovering, I have a rather long, not properly finished article on headcovering.
You might enjoy it.
Paula

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't worry about it. You can just add not living up to whatever headcovering law to the other huge oile of laws that we break..constantly.

Thanks be to God that we have a Savior!

Arthur Sido said...

So Steve should we just ignore all of the other commandments as well? Why evangelize, that is just one of those laws right? Why gather to worship and break bread, that is one of those commandments as well?

John 14: 15-24

15 “If you love me, you will keep my commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, [6] to be with you forever, 17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you. 18 “I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while and the world will see me no more, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you. 21 Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.” 22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to him, “Lord, how is it that you will manifest yourself to us, and not to the world?” 23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me.

Not trying to be unkind here, but our frequent failings are not a license to chuck the commandments we find in Scripture. This isn't an Old Testament ceremonial law, this is an explicit command expressed in Scripture under the New Covenant for worship in the church. We certainly are not saved by our obedience to the commandments, our standing before God is not changed, but if we truly worship Him for His grace to us ought we not worship Him as we have been commanded?

Bethany W. said...

Now, Arthur, you are starting to sound like a theonomist.

;)

Bethany

Anonymous said...

The commandments were made for man, not man for the commandments.

Do what you will. Just don't tie it to any righteousness of God.

That we fail to keep the commandments...does that bother you? Or is it only the effort that concerns you?

Christ commanded that we brwak bread and evangelize. Christ did not tell us to wear head coverings, otherwise wearing a hat would be a sacrament.

Arthur Sido said...

So Paul's writings are irrelvant? Peter's too? What about James or John? Can we just cut the epistles out of our Bibles? See I thought that all Scripture was of equal value.

You misunderstand entirely my point. No one I know of is saying that headcovering is a sacrament. No one is saying it makes you more righteous than another, or that we should break fellowship over it. NO ONE is saying it is a salvation issue. But it is a command from an apostle right there in the Word. How do we deal with it? Ignore it?

That is a slippery slope indeed.

Unknown said...

Mr. Martin,
Dealing directly with the head covering and other aspects of assembly gathering in chapters 11 through 14, Paul prefaces his teachings with these words, “Be ye followers of me, even as I also am a follower of Christ.

1 Corinthians 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Paula