Another interesting discussion on Old Truth, this one on why worry about poor preaching if the elect are going to be saved anyway? I like Jim B.'s explanation in this entry. Also of interest is the comment from "Sarah" arbitrarily discarding the centuries old doctrine of election in favor of a "loving God" and "biblical free will". Of course there is no biblical backing for this stance, but why quote Holy Writ when you can appeal to human sentimentality and emotion?