tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post8066277027296588000..comments2023-06-09T12:46:12.932-04:00Comments on The Voice Of One Crying Out In Suburbia: The best defense against heresyArthur Sidohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03848508095612688493noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post-45568905697579575552011-06-27T10:58:02.444-04:002011-06-27T10:58:02.444-04:00It could be. I think the other issue too is that g...It could be. I think the other issue too is that guys like Piper and Warren receive an almost demi-god status in the minds of people.<br /><br />Similarly to ancient worldviews wherein a collection of deities made decisions that affected the earth. People see Piper and Warren and others, not as helpful guides and fellow pilgrims, but as people whose statuses matter so much. <br /><br />In a way I feel like Piper needs to be able to be corrected, but at the same time, I wish people saw him as merely a guy. So when he's wrong or even Rob Bell is wrong, the idea would be refuted and the person would fade into the background and Christ would increase.<br /><br />Oh well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post-57357653127368005592011-06-27T07:10:44.317-04:002011-06-27T07:10:44.317-04:00Geoff
I have to wonder if we wold get into less t...Geoff<br /><br />I have to wonder if we wold get into less trouble and raise fewer theological nuances to the level of primary doctrines if we stuck to the simple truths of the Gospel instead of trying to parse everything down to the most extreme level. Of course no one is going to buy a book that says "Love the Lord your God, love one another, preach Christ and Him crucified" and no one is going to a conference full of five minute talks on simple stuff.<br /><br />Hmmm, that might be a good blog post...Arthur Sidohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03848508095612688493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post-57583672246995677342011-06-26T22:48:38.377-04:002011-06-26T22:48:38.377-04:00The way people acted after Piper was cordial to Wa...The way people acted after Piper was cordial to Warren was, in my mind, fairly shameful though. It did happen though.<br /><br />Few people have ever gotten onto Piper for other more serious issues though, like almost identifying the gospel with double imputation. Which, though it is a true and helpful doctrine, is not the same thing as saying, "Jesus is risen, God's kingdom is here, repent and be received into the kingdom."<br /><br />(Note: Piper is one of my favorite authors and has helped me see many things in scripture I would otherwise have missed if not for him)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post-77855717028580699122011-06-26T16:52:49.759-04:002011-06-26T16:52:49.759-04:00Eric
Somewhat. Piper has been publicly flayed bec...Eric<br /><br />Somewhat. Piper has been publicly flayed because he was courteous when speaking to Rick Warren. On the other hand, for those actually in attendance at Bethlehem could they even meet with him if they questioned something he said on a Sunday? It seems like there is a combination between single voices speaking in the church and hero worship even at the local church pastor level that lead to unhealthy apathy on the part of many.Arthur Sidohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03848508095612688493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post-11131005509922534652011-06-26T16:47:19.480-04:002011-06-26T16:47:19.480-04:00Arthur,
Thanks for the shout out.
I believe th...Arthur,<br /><br />Thanks for the shout out. <br /><br />I believe this is a critical issue for the church. There are currently some pastors who are almost beyond questioning. John Piper, for example, could say almost anything these days and get away with it. I certainly don't think Piper would consciously speak heresy, but he might make a mistake here or there. Who would ever speak up to correct him?Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07306854704766653209noreply@blogger.com