tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post2764463872682021515..comments2023-06-09T12:46:12.932-04:00Comments on The Voice Of One Crying Out In Suburbia: An issue of genderArthur Sidohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03848508095612688493noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post-48118804031435479962009-06-23T21:18:21.981-04:002009-06-23T21:18:21.981-04:00"Spirited" is right...*ahem*. :)
Arthur..."Spirited" is right...*ahem*. :)<br /><br />Arthur, on this point I actually agree with you. We need to do our best to take the Scripture at face value and *apply* it to our modern-day lives, but not allow culture to inform it (but rather the other way around).<br /><br />Where we are in disagreement is on who is doing what with regard to interpretation. Contrary to your belief about me and others like me, I am not attempting to popularize the gospel, nor am I basing this on the influence of our culture. I am actually looking further back than our classic interpretations, past the Western Greco-Roman culture (which influences our thinking more than we care to admit), and trying to discern the original intent of Scripture based on its original context and culture. I am looking further back than you may realize, and my conclusions are more informed and studied than I think you give me credit for.<br /><br />I don't intend to say more on the subject; we've both made our points, and we do not agree, and I'm okay with that. I just wanted you to know that my conclusions are not based on flimsy assumptions or a disrespect for the authority of the Word of God. I am honestly trying to get this right, same as you.Wayward Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03473905074288264868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post-73466396243854378012009-06-23T19:25:15.415-04:002009-06-23T19:25:15.415-04:00Jeff,
Thank you for your comments and willingness...Jeff,<br /><br />Thank you for your comments and willingness to exchange ideas, here and on your blog. I posted a lengthy and *ahem* spirited response to your last post. My only statement regarding your post is that we are all always interpreting Scripture but that HOW we interpret Scripture is key. Do we approach the Word from the standpoint of modern mores and culture or as the literal Word of God? Are we consistent? These are all issues that temper how useful our interpretation is.Arthur Sidohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03848508095612688493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post-48066347591147879712009-06-23T00:02:23.865-04:002009-06-23T00:02:23.865-04:00Maybe I should kick it off. :)
First, thank you f...Maybe I should kick it off. :)<br /><br />First, thank you for the mention in your blog, although you disagree with my conclusions. I am all for healthy, even spirited, dialogue on opposing viewpoints, when it's done respectfully. (You'll understand why I say "spirited" when you read my response to your last comments on my blog.) :D<br /><br />Second...I don't claim to be a theologian, and there are plenty of people who can out-Greek and Hebrew me. I probably should have stated somewhere in the blog post that these are my reflections and attempts to figure some things out, and I reserve the right both to be wrong, and to change my mind. I am, however, one who believes in the practical application of Scripture, and one to ask questions. I have never been one to accept certain interpretations of the Bible simply because that's the way we've always done it--because man is still fallible. I am compelled to know *why* we interpret it such a way, and when our interpretations have results that are less than life-giving (like in the harm we've done to women over the years), I question whether we got it right. That's exactly what I'm doing in this case, and that's pretty much the theme of my blog.<br /><br />Third--you should know that I used to be a complementarian. :)<br /><br />Fourth--I took a look at the sermon you linked to, and I was suprised to find that I don't actually relate to either of his definitions for complementarianism *or* egalitarianism. I seem to rest somewhere in between. I honestly felt that his arguments really carried a bit of a stereotype of the alternate viewpoint. Although our family does not resemble complementarian thinking as it is described here, I respect, honor, and cover my wife, and my son has picked up on that and knows how to treat women. And he is nowhere near gender-confused. :) I guess what I'm saying is that so many times we argue our points for the sake of winning the debate, rather than wrestling with opposing views to ascertain the truth. At first glance, that is the vibe I got from the sermon. At any rate...if I am an egalitarian, he really came nowhere near to pegging what I believe.<br /><br />That said...like I mentioned in my blog, I harbor no illusions that either one of us is going to sway the other to change his views. But it gives me courage to know these things are being talked about and thought about, at the very least. <br /><br />I leave you with this...that I've come to realize it really is impossible NOT to interpret the Bible. When we back a point by saying, "The Bible says," we are not just repeating what it says--we're making a judgment as to what it *means.* This is why two men like us can look at the same Bible and reach such different conclusions about its meaning on this issue. And that's why I'm inclined to respect your interpretation, even though I disagree with it, and even as I hold my own interpretation loosely and in the fear of God.<br /><br />P.S. Fifth--I grew up in Alma. Go Scots! :)Wayward Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03473905074288264868noreply@blogger.com