tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post1401267730048306286..comments2023-06-09T12:46:12.932-04:00Comments on The Voice Of One Crying Out In Suburbia: Why Complementarianism?Arthur Sidohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03848508095612688493noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643715.post-12819211472705914782012-08-28T21:23:04.306-04:002012-08-28T21:23:04.306-04:00Keller's point that an interpretative loosenin...Keller's point that an interpretative loosening is required to extract egalitarianism is very on point. It is my biggest inhibition to endorsing egalitarianism. I've never yet seen anyone reconcile it with the Biblical text in credible manner.<br /><br />Piper's concept of "protecting" the Gospel or putting a hedge around it is altogether too reminiscent of pharisees building a hedge about the Law. The gospel needs no protection, for it is the power of God.<br /><br />The characterization of culture's "brutal masculinity" is worth some consideration, but not in a gospel context. The gospel is not proved by its pragmatic outcomes.<br /><br />"Manhood" and "what it means to be a man" are egocentric identity plays - the Bible never asks anyone to be a man. What we are to be is always in relation to God, not to our selves and our selfness.<br /><br />Caron's endorsement of the cultural program continues to miss the point. Jesus never preached his gospel to "the culture." A lucky accident of English is that the definition of "culture" overlaps with the definition of yeast, or leaven. "Culture" and "worldly" are nearly synonyms. The cultures of this world - all of them - are condemned to destruction and can be regarded by Christians as half dead already.<br /><br />Piper's allegation that "you'll cave on other issues" makes logical sense but not historical sense. People are not consistent, for good or for ill, and it is unjustified to accuse a man of one fault merely because he exhibited another.<br /><br />Carson picks up this idea and is still wrong. Not trembling at the Word of God? We can fire this off at anyone who interprets any scripture differently than we do. Mere theatrics.<br /><br />A bit later Carson touches on some of the teaching in the Bible that rely upon marriage metaphors and rightly says that a proper understanding of marriage affects all of these. It does - or at least it should. But all of God's truth is captured in one Person, Jesus Christ, and as such there is one blood in any truth.<br /><br />I see these men as somewhat analogous to the drafters of the US constitution. They are endeavoring to create an organization of truth and light. They rightly recognize aspects of truth and light. But in trying to incorporate this truth and light into an organization - an army, if you will, marshaled against this present age - they are mistaking the source and power of the truth and light.<br /><br />This is manifest in the frequent references to ecclesiology and culture, neither of which are of much concern to the New Testament authors (with the caveat of ecclesiology as referenced in this conversation - church organization as such).Arlanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463694761795698095noreply@blogger.com